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Boring Disclaimer Stuff
Although my original Lime Crime review was pretty impartial (though, disappointed), after witnessing what the company's done since, it's incredibly hard for me to try and be impartial. Come on, you know I'm not. I've never delved into the company figure head's personal history or thrown rumours around, but I'm not a fan of the company, and will never shop with them because I think their conduct has been unethical. I'm biased, I know it, you know it, I'm not going to pretend I'm not. What I will do, however, is provide the most thorough (read: long) illustrated review of them I can, so you can decide which parts of it are influenced by my personal feelings for the company, and which parts are just my experience with a lipstick. (That sounded dirty, didn't it?)
There aren't many thorough reviews of Lime Crime's new lipstick line (you know, the one they switched all their focus to after the whole repackaging thing?), most I've seen tend to be filled with paragraphs of copy-pasted company blurb and then a few sentences on how they were sent the item to review for free, and yes, they did find it stained their lips, but hey, that's a good thing! It means it lasts longer!
I don't have anything against bloggers reviewing free press samples - I've received/reviewed a fair few, myself - I just dislike reviews which are 90% company material and 10% personal opinion. I'm made more suspicious by the fact that Lime Crime have an affiliate program, so bloggers who encourage people to buy their products can be financially rewarded for it. This, coupled with the known fact that negative reviews are not approved on the Lime Crime shop (go on, try leaving one) makes me feel iffy.
For disclosure purposes, the lipsticks I'm reviewing today, I didn't shell out my cash on - they were donated by a lovely reader, Lo, for review.
Oh, in case it wasn't obvious enough by the sheer fact that this is my personal blog, all opinions stated herein are just that, my opinion.
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Here it is, in all its pinky-purple holographic unicorn glory. Lime Crime's lipsticks come in 10 different colours, proclaimed in various bits of copy as being unique and edgy and very highly pigmented. Here's what they have to say about them:
Lo kindly sent me two colours -

Photo: proud property of Limecrimemakeup.com
A lot is said about this little tube. Some say it looks like childish play make-up, others say they love it. Personally, I love it. I love the purpleish-pink shade, I think the holographic unicorn is nicely done, as it's heat-stamped, and the whole tube is really great, high quality packaging which my sources in the industry tell me almost certainly cost a lot more to produce than the lipstick itself. People have said it's very similar to MAC's Heatherette lipstick packaging, and yes, it is, but it's still pretty.
The one thing that bugs the crap out of me though, is the size. The tube is huge, chunky, and just unnecessarily thick. It means it'd take up a lot more room in my make-up bag than a standard sized lipstick, and I think perhaps its size is what can make it look more like a novelty toy than a $16 cosmetic.
They're not repackaged Stargazer. Before the lipsticks came out, there was some speculation (I stress this word, because I never saw anyone saying 'they're this', I saw people saying 'I wonder if they're this' but Xenia, in one of her interviews, accused us of accusing her (still following?) of selling repackaged lipsticks) that they might be, but they clearly aren't. Judging from the product quality and the lipstick ingredient list, my sources in the industry tell me that it's a pretty generic stock formula, so likely private label with some revisions. But then, Xenia never claimed she makes these with her own two hands (unlike, for instance Morgana Minerals, who do). I do certainly believe she's had some input in their creation though, because that seems to be the case when I look at how the lipsticks perform.
The lipsticks are described as giving one-stroke opacity, being richly pigmented, long-wearing, creamy, and non-drying. They live up to some of this.
Pigmentation - They're definitely pigmented. Very pigmented. One-stroke opacity wasn't a problem, I could get a lot of colour out with a little effort. Some of them are too pigmented, and the stronger colours like the blue, the red, the fuchsia, will stain your lips after about half an hour. Some people like that in a lip product, I personally don't, because I like to wear different colours each day and don't want yesterday's blue lip colour clinging to me when I want a nude lip. But they live up to that, they're definitely opaque and have great colour pay-off.

No She Didn't on me after exfoliating and priming my lips. Not as thick/drying as Great Pink Planet, but it still showed up cracks in my lips more than I'd like.

After No She Didn't wore off (after an hour or so) and after cleaning my face to try and get it off, my lips stayed vaguely zombie-smurf-like.
Formula - Here's where they fall down. They don't apply or feel like a $16 lipstick, they feel like a $2 lipstick. I think my super-cheap NYX lipsticks have a vastly better formula. I own hundreds of lipsticks from different brands, and in terms of formula, this is without doubt the worst I've tried. I think it comes from them being over-pigmented. They go on very thick, in some cases stodgy, and cake my lips. Although I could get opaque colour with one stroke, it took a lot more work to get even colour, because the thick formula doesn't apply very evenly. It's visibly thick and cakey on my lips, even with one or two strokes.

Great Pink Planet on me after exfoliating and priming my lips.
Thick, cakey and drying, and it shows up every little flaw.
I also noticed it was very drying, contrary to their blurb, and it accentuated all the fine lines and cracks in my lips. Even positive reviews have said this about them. They're workable, but I'd need to first exfoliate my lips, use balm, blot, then use a lip primer, the lipstick, and a gloss over it to get the kind of even coverage I get with say, a MAC lipstick, and personally I think that's far more work than I expect if I'm paying $16 a tube.
Colour Range - I'd consider this the only reason to buy one, personally, unless you have a real weakness for unicorn packaging. They do come in a nice range of bright, unusual colours. Some are more unique than others, and some aren't unique at all and are easily duped, but personally, I have a small obsession with finding the right lilac lipstick. There aren't many out there, and D'lilac and Airborne Unicorn both look like lovely colours. If they were cheaper, (or sold by anyone else - I won't give these guys my money) I think I'd consider buying them and just deal with the bad formula, because those colours aren't readily available elsewhere, so in that instance, Lime Crime really have hit the mark.
"...a lipstick that gives you tube-to-lips colors in one stroke! In typical Lime Crime fashion, this lippy is bursting with pigment for criminally bright, opaque results. Smooth, creamy formula is long-wearing but won't dry out your lips."
Lo kindly sent me two colours -
- Great Pink Planet - "Bright pastel pink; think strawberry milkshake in a tube!"
- No She Didn't - "Opulent bubblegum-blue for those who know that blue lipstick is FASHION, not Halloween!"
Website
As ever, the Lime Crime website looks gorgeous. Their brand identity is strong, it's well designed and easy to navigate. They use an integrated cart system so checking out is easy and generally hassle-free.
A small bug-bear is that when asked if their products are vegan, they say about the lipsticks that they're free from all animal products except beeswax. So that's a no, then, they're not vegan. Why not just say that, instead of trying to sell it like they're, 'well, I mean they're almost vegan'?
The lipsticks all have little stories to accompany the shade names, which is nice, and there's photographs of them on lips and in the tubes. Unfortunately, Lime Crime swatches are generally considered to just be photoshopped on instead of being genuine. I'm going to go out on a limb and agree with that.
Hey, count the identical pairs of lips in this swatch shot, which was used for promoting the line pre-launch.
A small bug-bear is that when asked if their products are vegan, they say about the lipsticks that they're free from all animal products except beeswax. So that's a no, then, they're not vegan. Why not just say that, instead of trying to sell it like they're, 'well, I mean they're almost vegan'?
The lipsticks all have little stories to accompany the shade names, which is nice, and there's photographs of them on lips and in the tubes. Unfortunately, Lime Crime swatches are generally considered to just be photoshopped on instead of being genuine. I'm going to go out on a limb and agree with that.
Hey, count the identical pairs of lips in this swatch shot, which was used for promoting the line pre-launch.

Photo: proud property of Limecrimemakeup.com
Lime Crime also don't allow any negative reviews of their products to appear on the website. I've tried myself, and know a few others who've tried, to leave fair but generally negative product reviews there, and somehow they never get approved.
PackagingA lot is said about this little tube. Some say it looks like childish play make-up, others say they love it. Personally, I love it. I love the purpleish-pink shade, I think the holographic unicorn is nicely done, as it's heat-stamped, and the whole tube is really great, high quality packaging which my sources in the industry tell me almost certainly cost a lot more to produce than the lipstick itself. People have said it's very similar to MAC's Heatherette lipstick packaging, and yes, it is, but it's still pretty.
The one thing that bugs the crap out of me though, is the size. The tube is huge, chunky, and just unnecessarily thick. It means it'd take up a lot more room in my make-up bag than a standard sized lipstick, and I think perhaps its size is what can make it look more like a novelty toy than a $16 cosmetic.
Re-Packaging
They're not repackaged Stargazer. Before the lipsticks came out, there was some speculation (I stress this word, because I never saw anyone saying 'they're this', I saw people saying 'I wonder if they're this' but Xenia, in one of her interviews, accused us of accusing her (still following?) of selling repackaged lipsticks) that they might be, but they clearly aren't. Judging from the product quality and the lipstick ingredient list, my sources in the industry tell me that it's a pretty generic stock formula, so likely private label with some revisions. But then, Xenia never claimed she makes these with her own two hands (unlike, for instance Morgana Minerals, who do). I do certainly believe she's had some input in their creation though, because that seems to be the case when I look at how the lipsticks perform.
Promises & Product
The lipsticks are described as giving one-stroke opacity, being richly pigmented, long-wearing, creamy, and non-drying. They live up to some of this.
Pigmentation - They're definitely pigmented. Very pigmented. One-stroke opacity wasn't a problem, I could get a lot of colour out with a little effort. Some of them are too pigmented, and the stronger colours like the blue, the red, the fuchsia, will stain your lips after about half an hour. Some people like that in a lip product, I personally don't, because I like to wear different colours each day and don't want yesterday's blue lip colour clinging to me when I want a nude lip. But they live up to that, they're definitely opaque and have great colour pay-off.

No She Didn't on me after exfoliating and priming my lips. Not as thick/drying as Great Pink Planet, but it still showed up cracks in my lips more than I'd like.

After No She Didn't wore off (after an hour or so) and after cleaning my face to try and get it off, my lips stayed vaguely zombie-smurf-like.
Formula - Here's where they fall down. They don't apply or feel like a $16 lipstick, they feel like a $2 lipstick. I think my super-cheap NYX lipsticks have a vastly better formula. I own hundreds of lipsticks from different brands, and in terms of formula, this is without doubt the worst I've tried. I think it comes from them being over-pigmented. They go on very thick, in some cases stodgy, and cake my lips. Although I could get opaque colour with one stroke, it took a lot more work to get even colour, because the thick formula doesn't apply very evenly. It's visibly thick and cakey on my lips, even with one or two strokes.

Great Pink Planet on me after exfoliating and priming my lips.
Thick, cakey and drying, and it shows up every little flaw.
I also noticed it was very drying, contrary to their blurb, and it accentuated all the fine lines and cracks in my lips. Even positive reviews have said this about them. They're workable, but I'd need to first exfoliate my lips, use balm, blot, then use a lip primer, the lipstick, and a gloss over it to get the kind of even coverage I get with say, a MAC lipstick, and personally I think that's far more work than I expect if I'm paying $16 a tube.
Colour Range - I'd consider this the only reason to buy one, personally, unless you have a real weakness for unicorn packaging. They do come in a nice range of bright, unusual colours. Some are more unique than others, and some aren't unique at all and are easily duped, but personally, I have a small obsession with finding the right lilac lipstick. There aren't many out there, and D'lilac and Airborne Unicorn both look like lovely colours. If they were cheaper, (or sold by anyone else - I won't give these guys my money) I think I'd consider buying them and just deal with the bad formula, because those colours aren't readily available elsewhere, so in that instance, Lime Crime really have hit the mark.
Duplicates & Alternatives
I've only tried two Lime Crime lipsticks, so I just tried to find alternatives for the ones I had. For Great Pink Planet, I didn't have to look further than my own make-up drawer.


This would be one of the 'not so unique' ones. Which is fine, I mean, pink is pink, right? This kind of pastel pink is clearly not a new idea and has certainly been done before - better, in my opinion - by other companies. That being the case, though, I really wish that Lime Crime would stop acting like they were the first person to ever discover colour. (On that subject, someone needs to point out that the 'army of beige' lipsticks she pictured are actually mauve. Anyway.)
So, Great Pink Planet is very, very easily dupable. It's almost indistinguishable from MAC Saint Germain, except it's very slightly warmer rather than the cooler, more blue-toned MAC version. The more affordable dupe is Stargazer 119, which is considerably more sheer but also a lot more moisturising and slightly glossy. Because it's sheerer, however, it comes out slightly pinker and warmer on the lips, influenced by your natural lip colour.

Lime Crime - Great Pink Planet

MAC - Saint Germain

Stargazer - 119
So, Great Pink Planet is very, very easily dupable. It's almost indistinguishable from MAC Saint Germain, except it's very slightly warmer rather than the cooler, more blue-toned MAC version. The more affordable dupe is Stargazer 119, which is considerably more sheer but also a lot more moisturising and slightly glossy. Because it's sheerer, however, it comes out slightly pinker and warmer on the lips, influenced by your natural lip colour.

Lime Crime - Great Pink Planet

MAC - Saint Germain

Stargazer - 119
Both the MAC and Stargazer versions looked much nicer on my lips, applied better, and wore better. They felt much nicer on, I've always loved MAC's lipstick formula and I think it's one of the best out there, particularly when it's $2 cheaper than a tube of Lime Crime. Stargazer is a UK brand easily obtained on eBay for around $3-4 a tube, so both dupes are cheaper than the Lime Crime lipstick with, in my opinion, a vastly superior formula.
All lip swatches used the same preparations - exfoliation, balm, lip primer.
Because I know a lot of you are going to ask - MAC Saint Germain is Amplified Creme from the Sugarsweet Collection, although it's permanent in the UK. As far as I know, it's limited and thus not available from MAC in the US anymore, but if I'm wrong, please correct me.
On to the second lipstick, No She Didn't.
Blue lipstick isn't a new idea, either. Fyrinnae do bright blue lip products, MAC have done bright blue, Stargazer do blue, NYX do blue, well - a lot of companies make blue lipstick. The particular shade of blue is quite unique to Lime Crime, however.
No She Didn't is a bright, clear, and pale bubblegum blue. It's a blue I'd like in an eyeshadow, actually, because I think it's a nice candy-ish clear shade. Most blue lipsticks tend to be a bit darker, or more metallic. I wasn't able to find an incredibly close match, but I did find an alternative with a superior formula in the same family of blue, but a bit darker and more primary, less bubblegum.

Left: Lime Crime No She Didn't.
Right: Morgana Minerals Serenity.
All lip swatches used the same preparations - exfoliation, balm, lip primer.
Because I know a lot of you are going to ask - MAC Saint Germain is Amplified Creme from the Sugarsweet Collection, although it's permanent in the UK. As far as I know, it's limited and thus not available from MAC in the US anymore, but if I'm wrong, please correct me.
On to the second lipstick, No She Didn't.
Blue lipstick isn't a new idea, either. Fyrinnae do bright blue lip products, MAC have done bright blue, Stargazer do blue, NYX do blue, well - a lot of companies make blue lipstick. The particular shade of blue is quite unique to Lime Crime, however.
No She Didn't is a bright, clear, and pale bubblegum blue. It's a blue I'd like in an eyeshadow, actually, because I think it's a nice candy-ish clear shade. Most blue lipsticks tend to be a bit darker, or more metallic. I wasn't able to find an incredibly close match, but I did find an alternative with a superior formula in the same family of blue, but a bit darker and more primary, less bubblegum.

Left: Lime Crime No She Didn't.
Right: Morgana Minerals Serenity.
As you can see, they're both similar shades of blue, the same kind of brightness and overall hue, but No She Didn't is much lighter, whereas Serenity is a bit brighter and closer to a primary blue. If you wanted to try a bright blue lipstick but were concerned No She Didn't might be too pale and wash you out, Serenity's probably a good bet.

Slightly metallic Morgana Minerals Serenity, which I think looks a lot better on my lips.
It certainly feels a million times nicer on.
Back when Lo sent me her lipsticks, she requested that I try Morgana Minerals' vegan lipsticks, which are widely reputed online, and asked me to review them and let her know if they were what Lime Crime's was supposed to be. They are. I've featured a guest review here saying much the same thing, and will soon post up my own review for Morgana lipsticks, but for now I'll tell you to believe the hype. They manage to be beautifully richly pigmented, in an array of bright and unusual colours, and they're an absolute pleasure to apply. Smooth, rich, not drying, not thick or stodgey, just exactly what a lipstick should be. I didn't notice any staining with Morgana's Serenity, either, and a full-size tube of this tube is cheaper at $10. It's also vegan, whereas Lime Crime's lipsticks contain beeswax.

Slightly metallic Morgana Minerals Serenity, which I think looks a lot better on my lips.
It certainly feels a million times nicer on.
Back when Lo sent me her lipsticks, she requested that I try Morgana Minerals' vegan lipsticks, which are widely reputed online, and asked me to review them and let her know if they were what Lime Crime's was supposed to be. They are. I've featured a guest review here saying much the same thing, and will soon post up my own review for Morgana lipsticks, but for now I'll tell you to believe the hype. They manage to be beautifully richly pigmented, in an array of bright and unusual colours, and they're an absolute pleasure to apply. Smooth, rich, not drying, not thick or stodgey, just exactly what a lipstick should be. I didn't notice any staining with Morgana's Serenity, either, and a full-size tube of this tube is cheaper at $10. It's also vegan, whereas Lime Crime's lipsticks contain beeswax.
The Nutshell Bit
Overall, they're not completely awful.
The concept behind them is great, the colour payoff is great, the shade range available is great, although some are not nearly as unique as claimed and the formula is absolutely horrible. I don't like how they feel or look on, but with a lot of preparation and a nice gloss, you can achieve a nice finish with them.
There's no way in hell they're worth $16, considering everything else available, and the high-quality packaging, I'd say maybe $5-8 would be more reasonable. The fact that they cost more than a MAC lipstick is ridiculous. But, if you're desperate for one that specific colour and can't find a dupe, they are at least workable, although not the quality you'd expect for the cash.
Price: $16
Where?: Lime Crime's website. I won't link to it.
Look & Feel: 4/5 Great quality quirky packaging, although chunky and big.
Quality: 0/5 The most horrible lipstick formula I've ever tried.
Value: 0/5 The asking price is far too high for the bad formula, especially next to superior, cheaper competitors.
Variety: 4/5 Some are not-so-unique, but there are a few unusual, lovely shades among them.
Overall: 2/5 Because they are usable, and not generic, but way overpriced.
Would I Purchase?: No, but then, I wouldn't ever buy anything from Lime Crime. Given what I know about the company, I wouldn't ever support them. That said, I have bought D'lilac off a fellow blogger who bought a few to review, to try it out.
The concept behind them is great, the colour payoff is great, the shade range available is great, although some are not nearly as unique as claimed and the formula is absolutely horrible. I don't like how they feel or look on, but with a lot of preparation and a nice gloss, you can achieve a nice finish with them.
There's no way in hell they're worth $16, considering everything else available, and the high-quality packaging, I'd say maybe $5-8 would be more reasonable. The fact that they cost more than a MAC lipstick is ridiculous. But, if you're desperate for one that specific colour and can't find a dupe, they are at least workable, although not the quality you'd expect for the cash.
Price: $16
Where?: Lime Crime's website. I won't link to it.
Look & Feel: 4/5 Great quality quirky packaging, although chunky and big.
Quality: 0/5 The most horrible lipstick formula I've ever tried.
Value: 0/5 The asking price is far too high for the bad formula, especially next to superior, cheaper competitors.
Variety: 4/5 Some are not-so-unique, but there are a few unusual, lovely shades among them.
Overall: 2/5 Because they are usable, and not generic, but way overpriced.
Would I Purchase?: No, but then, I wouldn't ever buy anything from Lime Crime. Given what I know about the company, I wouldn't ever support them. That said, I have bought D'lilac off a fellow blogger who bought a few to review, to try it out.





75 comments:
If anything, unicorns on make up would put me off so much more. This review was crying out for Robot Unicorn Attack puns, but I'll forgive you ALWAYS.
2 March 2010 01:54I enjoy that you can review things impartially. This is why you rock.
Sorrrry. I was trying to be more grown-up and professional :[
2 March 2010 01:55I'm kinda crazy addicted to that game though x_x
I like the packaging, but the formula sounds terrible!
2 March 2010 02:01Huh, so people are basically paying $16 for packaging. Great review Ana, I think you did a great job on staying impartial, given what we all know about this company.
2 March 2010 02:04All things considered, I thought you did a pretty good job of being impartial. I know I couldn't pull it off.
2 March 2010 02:06Idk, a couple of the colors do tempt me (well, Cosmopop), but I refuse to buy it for all of the reasons you've listed.
Ok! So! Morgana lipsticks = what I wanted from LC lipsticks AND Shrinkle shadows = what I wanted from LC magic sparkly mica dusts.
2 March 2010 02:09I think I'm all set?
At least now I know I need Serenity. It's such a lovely shade of blue @_@
2 March 2010 02:10I'm new to lipsticks, but I can certainly see the differences on how the lipsticks applied to your lips, especially the pink ones. Saint Germain is definitely on my list too.
Lime Crime.... no. Just... No.
I enjoyed your review, and am looking forward to the Morgana Minerals one. :)
I was gonna post a review on these since I bought two as a goodbye purchase from LC (I bought about...seven eyeshadows before the controversy got to me? I figured I'd buy at least one lipstick to show my gratitude as a reader of her blog. And I've never thought her service was bad, despite how shady her business is). But I guess I can give a few heads up about other colors.
2 March 2010 02:13No She Didn't - I agree with everything you said. It feels weird and it stains. And I just couldn't see myself wearing it, unless I was gonna be an Articuno for a day.
(I also didn't buy this. It was accidentally sent instead of Cosmopop, which I got the next week so it's no big. She was nice about it.)
Airborne Unicorn - Prettiest color ever. I kindof hope Morgana comes out with a dupe for this because it's lovely (though I heard Lavender Whip is similar?). Unfortunately, it's very hard to get off. It didn't stain as much as NSD, but otherwise, the formula's a stoke harsher.
Cosmopop - A lot smoother than the other two, but a very hard color to pull off. I think she pulls it off okay, so I guess it's a pale skin kind of color. I currently use it as an undereye concealer so it doesn't go completely unused.
Kindof a waste of my money, but hey. The tubes look pretty in my traincase.
I think you did a great job being impartial with your review! Thanks so much for posting it.
2 March 2010 02:17I have no idea why it only just struck me now, but the lipstick tubes are like giant sparkly dildos.
2 March 2010 02:27Hgnhhhh need to try Morgana Minerals, though their 'we're too small a business to replace your shit if it gets lost in the mail' policy makes me uneasy :(
Well, I thought this was very fair.
2 March 2010 03:35I find that most lipsticks tend to dry out my lips. I generally don't buy them, so I was never really intending to buy any of Lime Crime's.
Some of the colours are nice but, as you said, there are plenty of better quality dupes out there. The only one that really strikes me as 'unique' in any way is Oh No She Didn't. Most of the other colours, you can already find in the ranges of mainstream make-up companies. You know, the ones run by evil misogynistic men who want to imprison us all in a world of beige.
Definitely agreeing that your review is really great. Your opinion on the products and the company were very held apart. Props on that, lady!
2 March 2010 03:44So glad to see an in-depth review of the lipsticks. Some of the colors are indeed neat, but the formula just looks terrible.
You lucky peoples get Saint Germain FOREVER!?!? I feel left out :(
2 March 2010 04:12I am lousy at the robot unicorn game. It took 3 deaths to find out z was jump...
If they weren't so expensive, I'd get some of the colours I like the look of and melt them and mix them with something moisturising.
2 March 2010 04:25I'm sure as companies keep developing new products, someone will produce these colours in better formulas...
I'm thinking OCC lip tars so I can mix my own?
the whole vegan thing is pissing me of so much! I used to be vegan, and let me tell you, it can be freaking hard to find vegan stuff, and when people are lying to your face about whats vegan, it just makes it that much harder.
2 March 2010 04:52anyways, the lipsticks looks like crap. lol, really $16, what a joke.
I'm gonna need to try that new Morgana blue, i didn't really like the last one I got, but this one looks much better
I am totally impressed with the tone and thoroughness of your review. That was really, really well done. It just reaffirms to me that I'm not missing much, and that I need to order some lipsticks from Morgana's Minerals! The staining is such a turn off to me - I'm a teacher. I want to be able to wear bright lipstick out in the evening and be able to meet with parents and colleagues the next day in conservative makeup. It's hard to cover up marks/stains on your lips.
2 March 2010 04:59I'm a big fan of MAC's lipstick formula as well - I can't wear Amplified Cremes (I can't ingest gluten, and Amps have gluten), but it's a great formula (if you're not celiac, go get some, they're SO nice), as are all MAC's formulas. Even their mattes are really wearable. Ruby Woo is super-matte, and it's not a hard formula to work with(take this with a grain of salt though, I'm a red lipstick fiend).
I worship Morgana's Serenity lipstick and need to buy a full tube as soon as I'm off of my no-buy. Honestly, I could give 2 shits about the packaging if the product doesn't pay off. In the long run, my criteria for "good packaging" is, "Does it stay shut in my bag?"
2 March 2010 05:12If you guys are looking for "dupes" of Airborne Unicorn, NYX's Castle and Power lipsticks are milky purples, although I wouldn't say any of them are EXACT dupes.
I thought St. Germaine was perm now...? It shows up on the MAC website when I look at it.
Even if I was just finding out about all this stuff now; as a vegan, I would not purchase even the purportedly vegan products on her website. How can I tell she's not lying about those? Her charity grandstanding is even more anger inducing.
2 March 2010 05:44The packaging is definitely very polarizing. I'm on the other side of the fence, it looks totally childish to me. I'd prefer sleeker packaging from MAC or Korres.
2 March 2010 06:24Even if I was into a blue lipstick, I totally would not want that zombie look after I take it off.
I liked your review and thought you did a great job at trying to present an impartial view.
The packaging is definitely very polarizing. I'm on the other side of the fence, it looks totally childish to me. I'd prefer sleeker packaging from MAC or Korres.
2 March 2010 06:25Even if I was into a blue lipstick, I totally would not want that zombie look after I take it off.
I liked your review and thought you did a great job at trying to present an impartial view.
Amazing review! I thought you gave credit where it's due and criticism where warranted (backed up by the photos).
2 March 2010 07:06This was definitely a fair review and much better than your eyeshadow review and indeed - I really liked it, still I'm an LC fan and still purchase their products.
2 March 2010 09:49When I saw the Morgana Minerals Serenity, I immediately thought of Firefly. I'm a dork. You have probably enough followers to start your own makeup like and name everything after obscure Firefly references.
2 March 2010 15:50I know exactly what you mean about the formula.. I purchased the red one (no idea on the name) a few months back before I started researching the whole 'scandal'. I took it off and it looked as though it was still on.
2 March 2010 17:29I've heard they're actually going to be selling this shit at Urban Outfitters in Canada or something? Ugh, prepare for a whole new army of tweens to back Doh up, and a bunch of hipsters with stained lips.
Great review. You did a good job at keeping it sort of 'neutral'. haha.
All things considered, I think this is a fair and impartial review. Well done.
2 March 2010 20:18I love the packaging and the range of colors but the formula sounds awful. For $16.00 I expect a lot better, but then all her products are overpriced.
BNow I'm lemming the Morgana Minerals Serenity Lipstick though. I'm not sure I could pull it off but the color look so pretty!
I have Airbone Unicorn. Pretty color, but the formula is not worthy!
2 March 2010 22:40Morgana's Azalea was all I wanted Centrifushia to be!
I also like My beautiful rocket color..
But, honestly? I have to do so many things to cope with the horrible formula! x.x
I barely use them....
Sad....
I think you've done a good review!
Hugs,
Cacau
I saw the Urban Outfitters thing too. I'm going to have to tell my friends and cousins not to fall for the trap!
3 March 2010 01:22I have a Lime crime lipstick, the "my beautiful rocket" One. I also like the colors of lipsticks she has, but I didn't find out til after wards that the one I bought isn't as unique as I thought. Anyway. I still like the color, but my lips have to not be dry at all for me to put on the lipstick. Afterwards it's fine, though. But, I also have a Mac lipstick in "cyber" and I don't know if it's that color or what, but I have as much trouble with the application of it as I do of the LC lipstick. They feel like the same quality to me. I have some revlon lipsticks and one sephora brand lipstick, both brands I like better. I especially like the sephora lipstick I have; It's very moisturizing and it smells grapey. But the revlon lipsticks I have are lovely. They last a long time, go on very niceley and aren't too drying to me. My favorite color is "cherries in the snow" It's a very bright pink, sort of like LC's centrifushia, but better. ;p
3 March 2010 03:54I just bought some lip lustres from fyrinne though, I can't wait til they get here. <3 I've been wanting to order from them for awhile.
nice review! and i say that as a devoted LC customer *dodges flying tomatoes*. i gotta agree though, not a fan of the zombie smurf look, but i don't wear blue anyway [but i actually have TWO tubes of NSD... go figure, but one of them was free]
3 March 2010 06:24the photoshopped swatches were swiftly replaced by actual lip swatches shortly after the launch though, and personally i havent experienced any clumpy stodginess or drying feeling. i guess it comes down to each person though. :]
ps i can't confirm this for certain because i don't have both lippes but apparently MAC's lavender whip is very similar to airborne unicorn. i dont keep up to speed w MAC so i dunno if its ltd ed or not
3 March 2010 06:38Since I read that she created My Perfect Face or whatever the hell the orange one is called because she couldn't find a good orange lipstick anywhere, I called bullshit on this line. Also, sugarpill has kittehs.
3 March 2010 17:37If anyone knows of 'dupes' for Dragon Scales and Siren magic dusts, or you, the actual fucking pigments from wholesale, pleeeease let me know, though.
Robyn-
3 March 2010 19:01Dragon Scales = Chameleon Gitter
Siren = Hot Mama
From TKB Trading, their eye micas.
That's not a dupe, either, they're identical, that's what LC uses and puts in a different jar. It'll set you back about $1.50 for a tablespoon which, when I weighed a few, averaged out at around 12 grams of product. Their minimum order is $20 though, but there's a list of confirmed TKB / Lime Crime matches here:
Pink Poodle- TKB cloissone red
Snow Queen- TKB Sparkle Turquoise
Elf- TKB apple green pop
Pompadour- TKB Colorona dark blue
Princess Caraboo- TKB Emerald
Primadonna- TKB Strawberry POP
Empress- TKB Grape POP
Nymph- TKB Hi-lite gold
Siren- TKB Hot Mama
Medusa- TKB Blackstar Blue
Circus Girl- TKB lemon drop POP
Fairy Wings- TKB Hi-lite violet
Enchant-TKB Blackstar Green
Shoe Addict- TKB Blueberry POP
Twilight- TKB Ballad Blue
Mermaid- TKB Coral Reef Blue
Duchess- TKB Indian Blue
Mirror Mirror- TKB Antique Silver
Dragon Scales- TKB Chameleon Glitter
my lips are very creased and dry to begin with, these lipsticks would probably make them look like a shriveled prune.
3 March 2010 19:15most of the reviews all say the same thing about quality. they look so... gross.
serenity looks gorgeous, but i look retarded in lipsticks. i have yet to find a color i can pull off.
I bought 2 of these and was pretty disappointed. The colours were nice, I got Great Pink Planet and Contessa Fluorescent, but the formula reminded me of the stuff I used to get at the dollar store as a kid to play dress up with and left my lips stained and flakey after one use. Both colours were CONSIDERABLY different from the pictures!
3 March 2010 23:44i also really hate how she talks about all these 'men run the makeup industry! Grrrl power!' and she has clearly never taken a Gender Studies course or read anything on the subject ajhdflakjfhdk. Post feminist does not equal third wave!
Very good review! I agree completely about the formula. Well, one formula was ok, retrofuturist, but the creamy ones were just all slide over the place, stick into crevices, etc.
4 March 2010 00:49I wouldn't go as far as to say that the eyeshadows are ONLY mica. They may be just one colored mica with a binder added. I am saying this since the couple shadows that I bought wore very well on me without a primer and I have oily eyelids (something pure mica wouldn't do). However, the colors definitely aren't creative, and are probably just one mica color if at most two.
And all of you US people, you CAN buy Saint Germain! Actually, I bought Saint Germain b.c. I wanted the color Great Pink Planet but didn't like the formula of several of the LC lipsticks I bought. (Well, Amplified Cremes have some of the consistency problems that LC lipsticks have, but definitely not as badly).
MAC online (http://www.maccosmetics.com/) sells Saint Germain. I got it shipped to where I live in the US.
No worries Tally, I deleted the others.
4 March 2010 02:12RE: Eyeshadows. Their ingredients match TKB's exactly, mica, titanium oxide, iron oxide, sometimes carmine, etc. The only thing you'd add to that would be titanium oxide, and that's not used to improve adhesion or consistency, but to whiten and water down eyeshadows. None of them appear to have a white cast, so if there was any added, it's certainly minimal.
Thanks for the SG update!
I bought Airborne Unicorn. The color was NOT what I was expecting and 3 days later - THREE DAYS - the lippie broke in the tube. I'd ordered Styletto for a friend's birthday and she told me it lasted 2 weeks before hers broke.
4 March 2010 14:29You're welcome! I was super excited to learn that you could buy it online still.
5 March 2010 07:32I know about the listed ingredients, but I thought Titanium Dioxide was a binder since many mmu eyeshadows only have oxides plus mica plus titanium dioxide as their ingredients.
From Coastal Scents, a/b TI: "Used as a main additive in loose mineral foundation, eyeshadows, blush, it adds adhesion to your formulations". However, TI is white and the colors are vibrant, so I don't know...
However, if you look at other company's formulations, they also have the same basic ingredients (TI, Mica, Oxides).
Aromaleigh Eye Lustres: "Mica (CI 77019), titanium dioxide (CI 77891), May contain: iron oxides (CI 77499, CI 77491, CI 77492), Ferric ferrocyanide (CI 77510), Ferric oxide (CI 77491), Tin Oxide (CI 77861), Carmine (CI 175470)
"
Earthen Glow Minerals: "Eye Shadows and Eye Liners
Ingredients: Titanium Dioxide, Mica, Iron Oxides"
A/b the textures, I tried on Saint Germain v.s. D'Lilac several times, and actually their consistencies are quite similar (I have qualms w/ Mac Amplified finishes too, though). So I hope that the D'Lilac formula turns out better than the Airborn Unicorn formula. I also have Cosmopop, and that formula is the worst out of all of them, so I think it really hit or miss formula wise with the colors.
Hmmm, so maybe TI really is only needed in small quantities to act as a binder since many of those shadows (like AL Lustres) are really vibrant and have good adhesion.
5 March 2010 07:39However, if TKB sells those colors with TI added already in order to improve adhesion, then I could see that these are just repackaged since like I said above, the colors look like one type of colored mica.
Mainly, I thought the colors weren't repackaged directly b.c. the LC shadows adhere well. But if straight TKB micas also adhere well, then there goes that theory!
I still can't get St Germain :( When I try to go to .com it automatically changes it to .ca and it's not there.
5 March 2010 14:00I dunno why we aren't able to get it, MAC was Canadian to begin with!
Growl@mac
I still can't get St Germain :( When I try to go to .com it automatically changes it to .ca and it's not there.
5 March 2010 14:00I dunno why we aren't able to get it, MAC was Canadian to begin with!
Growl@mac
I just wanted to add a few things to help clear up some confusion.
5 March 2010 14:48TKB does not add Titanium Dioxide to the micas. The mica manufacturers are the ones who put the TD in there.
Mica manufacturers sell their micas coated with oxides and titanium dioxide. These ingredients are layered onto the mica by a process that can't be duplicated by makeup companies.
When you buy a mica from TKB, it is not a finished product. TKB micas are meant to be used in a formula, which is how the mica manufacturers also intend them to be used.
Swatch a straight mica alongside that same mica that was incorporated into a finished shadow and you will notice a difference. When you make a shadow, it is a completely different process - but can have the same or nearly identical ingredients. Grinding oxides, and other ingredients with the micas will help with color payoff and adhesion.
So, someone repackaging could have the same or nearly identical ingredient list as someone who does not repackage. If an ingredient list says: mica, titanium oxide, iron oxide - it doesn't always mean that it;s repackaged. The person selling it could've added more oxides, or another type of mica. Some people also use ingredients such as Magnesium Stearate to help with adhesion.
With micas, you need to grind oxides, ultramarines, manganese violet, and other heavily pigmented ingredients to make a good shadow. A straight mica is just a part of a shadow formula.
Hope this helps. :)
Thanks, interesting to know. I always wondered about that. I can see how oxides would help w/ adhesion since I've read that in plain form they tend to go all clumpy and you need a blender to get them fully mixed with other base ingredients.
6 March 2010 01:15I guess then the real test to see whether these micas are straight repackaged or not then would be to do a "wear" test, ie a pure mica from TKB versus the alleged repackaged color from LC. Like, wear Empress on one eyelid, and Grape Pop on the other, and see if the shadows show the same amount of wear and tear by the end of the day. If they do, well, then they look the same, and have the same adhesion properties, so that would be more evidence towards repackaging. If the grape pop wore off by the end of the day but Empress didn't, then that would be evidence that LC did some amount of their own blending.
I already own the colours that I like in their collection and the packaging really doesn't appeal to me. Like Grey said, I'd be all over it if it were a pink plaid, but I haven't been in to glittery unicorns since I was six years old.
6 March 2010 03:19One thing I actually do like about LC's products is that they have cute little story blurbs.
I'm not sure the story bits were all Doe's stories though, I think I remember seeing that it was a contest for her lil "futurettes" to come up with something and win a free lipstick. I could be wrong. Does this sound right to anyone else?
6 March 2010 03:37Very sorry to hear, KittenMittens. Maybe you could try a swap thing on Spektra? Do you have a US friend who would be willing to buy it for you? Maybe you could try the Stargazer version?
6 March 2010 13:12St. G isn't available in US stores, so a trip here wouldn't help either, :/ .
Girl, you are so funny. I adore your posts! I think I may have to be a zombie smurf for Halloween.
6 March 2010 20:45As usual, great review and very entertaining reading. I think I'll remain on the fence about all this as LC makeup is so way out of my budget that all points are moot for me anyway :)
7 March 2010 10:52Just thought I'd pitch in regarding 'we're too small a business to replace your shit if it gets lost in the mail' policies. For future reference, in the UK, the law asserts that anything sold and then sent through the mail is the sole responsibility of the seller until it reaches the buyer. As such, if it goes missing the seller has no option but to refund or replace and then seek compensation from the postal service themselves. Any notices that sellers will not accept liability for items lost in transit are, in fact, unlawful. I have no idea if there is anything similar for US distance selling regulations but if any UK sellers try to feed you that crap they either don't know the law or they are banking on you not knowing it.
I forgot to mention, if you do a "wear test" of a LC eyeshadow and the alleged TKB dupe, you should apply the shadows without primer, one shadow on one eye, the other on the other.
7 March 2010 20:16Using a primer or base could make a pure mica stick as if it weren't just mica.
Hello Anastasia,
8 March 2010 20:04I've been wanting to comment on your blog for a while and tell you how much I love it, and today seemed like the perfect time to do just that. :-) I have two awards for you in my latest post: although we don't know each other, it felt right to give them to you.
Your blog is one of the best out there for many reasons: your integrity, sense of humor and straightforwardness make it useful, informative and very enjoyable to read. (Those amazing swatches help too: they've totally convinced me to raid Fyrinnae's online store as soon as I get my salary. :-D)
Congratulations again and keep up the excellent work!
Love,
Izar
I, too think it is overrated - thanks for your honest post. (I just found your blog)...I contacted them about doing a review on my blog, and was kindly told "sorry, we don't have any press samples left at this time. Please feel free to use this discount code XXXXXXX when ordering"...BLAH BLAH BLAH... Not that I think my simple little 5000-hit-a-month blog deserves to get "yeses" from everyone I contact, but I think it was rude to ask me to order, using the "artist discount" If Doe wants to know why I contacted her it's because of reviews like this one....you're not the first LC fence-rider, believe me....repackaged, too expensive, dupes....(thanks for the comparison!). I was trying to help her tarnished image, sorry for being too fucking nice!
10 March 2010 14:45Hey, I live in the mountains of West Virginia, nearly devoid of all culture, (LOL) and anytime I find a product I think is punk and I could help promote, here, in no-mans land, I give it a whirl.....
rock on.
:B
~Tiffani
Yeah i've heard similar reviews about this stuff. I admit I do like Doe, and have been reading her blog/journal since she was shilling reconstructed marilyn manson shirts on Ebay. However I wouldn't dump any money into her shady business. I thought you did a fantastic job honestly reviewing the product. People need to know!
11 March 2010 00:57Also....while randomly farting around blog that was linked to Sugarpill, i saw a post with dups for LC lipstck using OCC Lip Tars. The colors are made for mixing so there are endless possibilities. However, apparently their ingredients are suspect, and i don't know if it's been resolved yet. The blue looks strikingly close to No She Didn't, so it's worth a look if you like the colors, but don't want to support Doe's shenanigans.
Awesomely written! Made me laugh and cheer you! :)
14 March 2010 00:39Awesomely written! Made me laugh and cheer you! :)
14 March 2010 00:39Awhile ago you said something about not trading in your Lime Crime shadows to the Aromaleigh promo thing because you had a better use for them. What is it? :P
16 March 2010 00:38Have you seem this? http://www.temptalia.com/lime-crime-lipsticks-reviews-photos-swatches doe deere's appearance seems more than ooc
23 March 2010 04:58Oh wow, I have nothing to add but I've just spent at least two hours reading all the drama surrounding Lime Crime.
30 March 2010 14:27I haven't kept up to date with any of her or Amy's goings on for a few years now, but I've never been a fan of hers and I'm glad she's finally been exposed for the con-woman she is.
I remember in her DiY days she was constantly copying Shrinkle, then Supayana and was surprised she got away with it.
She copied more than Amy's clothes, when Amy started selling make-up (Kryolan) so did Xenia. I know Amy doesn't 'own' certain items, but when Amy started selling trimmings, underwear, accessories, etc so did Xenia. Lime Crime is obviously her way of copying Sugarpill, and I can't believe she has the cheek to create repackaging drama around Amy.
(Also way back on Livejournal there was a community called meanest_bastard, or something along those lines. Which exposed bad DiY, they duped Xenia 'Lime Criminal' it's quite a funny read if you can still find it).
I think very few of her shades or really unique, (I'm thinking like, main stream companies mainly here) Because MAC has realised a good few purple and lilac lipsticks Up the amp looks similar to airborne unicorn and d'lilac is similar, to lavender whip or blooming lovely but a bit more lavender, which I think makes it look a little chalky, but I'm torn on if I should try it out or not since occ have brought out a lavender lip tar...
2 April 2010 17:58Having just read the Encyclopedia Dramatica entry on good ol' Doe, I can - perhaps - shed some light on the "oh, well, they're almost vegan" thing (and apologies if this has been posted before/you've seen it before):
6 April 2010 04:14http://twitter.com/limecrime/status/9385688038
I laughed and laughed and laughed. And I'm not even vegan myself.
Okay, now, you have to read this :D I posted some Fyrinnae swatches on my blog some time ago, and today an Anonymous had commented on it:
8 April 2010 09:10"Lime Crime ftw <3"
I stared at it and then I laughed so hard. Just where did that person come from? :D I've never said negative things about Lime Crime in my blog, heck, I've never even mentioned them, and still that person felt an urge to defend LC, and do it in MY BLOG, ANONYMOUSLY, AND COMPLETELY OUT OF THE BLUE?
Uh-huh.
Hi! New here. Found your blog while Googling all the LC drama. Love your geekified beauty outlook.
13 April 2010 15:28I have four LC shadows and four lipsticks. Although I love the lipstick colors and the red (Retrofuturist) wears on me the best, I have but one word for the others: CHALKY.
I thought I was doing something wrong with the application because I wasn't getting that smooth, luminous look you see in the swatch photos on the LC site. The finish looked very dry on me. Then I thought maybe I had just made bad color choices for my skin tone.
Nope! It's not just me.
Some gloss to even out the coverage and add moisture has saved my lipstick investment for the most part, and I still enjoy the Magic Dusts, but I won't be purchasing from Lime Crime again. :(
Sad. I really like LC's zany charm, and the whole sparklerainbowunicorn thing is a little silly but also a refreshing antidote to all the crumminess on Planet Earth. It's a shame, really, that their products' value does not match the image.
However, the upside is that a Morgana Minerals order is on the way and I'm bookmarking Fyrinnae and Aromaleigh for future indulgence. :D :D :D
Thanks for this Ana, really informative. I hope you come back soon!
14 April 2010 17:46Man I miss your blog :( *eye starts twitching from withdrawl symptoms*
15 April 2010 00:24Hope you come back soon!
oh dear, i do hope you are ok. missing your blog terribly!
21 April 2010 16:59Wow .. blue lipstick! You have a really unique way of reviewing things xD
24 April 2010 07:56Hi Anastasia,
6 May 2010 16:40I was actually just looking up pictures of NYX lipstick and was brought here! (Thanks for the swatches btw, they were very helpful!)
Anyways, I spent another, very unexpected hour and a half reading your Lime Crime lipstick review and its - ahem - shall we say 'affairs', and I am SO glad I did. I will never buy anything from them. I try to do my research when buying new products, and you just did me a favour. Also, I couldn't stop reading. Haha.
You've just got yourself a new reader ;)
I'm starting to wonder if Doe had you kidnapped, loz.
6 May 2010 18:36What Julia said. Hope you're OK! :)
8 May 2010 02:14Miss you, Ana. I hope the Unicorn Queen hasn't taken you captive for not spreading glitter and rainbows and Lisa Frank graphic love over her lipsticks.
13 May 2010 07:37Seriously, I hope you're OK...
miss your lovely posts and reviews.... :)
15 May 2010 12:11hi, i didn't know a thing about Lime Crime controversy till someone pointed it out on my blog. Therefore, I posted this post (link) on my post. I am so sorry tht you had such a poor experience with this brand.
10 August 2010 01:08It was not as bad for me but I totally understand how angry I'd be if I knew it was copycatting other brands.
I haven't been a regular on MUA so I missed out a lot of controveral issues, which may or may not reflect on my own reviews. But anyway, thank you for keeping these posts up and I am glad now I read them all.
My sister ordered their lipstick, and it broke the very day she used it, and the other ones she had to depot for the same reason, and they rattled in the tube which she thought was odd. I just think it's a little ridiculous that they cost more then MAC. I mean really. I def won't be buying from them.
19 December 2010 06:10nice review :)
18 January 2011 03:28I love some of the color, cute
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