Ragequit: 40% More Fail

As most of you know - since I'm continually late to the party (most of the time I'm just skipping the party and staying in with a good book, instead) - in January MAC changed their pigment packaging. The company line is that it's more in-keeping with the aesthetic of the rest of the products (it's slimmer, like the nail polish and foundation bottles), uses less plastic and thus is less wasteful, and has a super-duper rubber cap, which is totally better than the old plastic one.

They didn't really announce it, didn't give us a good reason, and didn't apologise for it. And they happily skipped over the rather important bit: that the change masks a 40% price-increase.


The old jar retails at $19.50 US or £15 ($24) UK, and it holds 7.5 grams.



The new jar retails at $19.50 US or £15 ($24) UK, and it holds 4.5 grams.

The new jar is giving you 40% less product, for the same price. That equates to a 40% price increase. Yes, it's probably better than selling 7.5g at $27.30, but it's still a 40% price increase, just the other way around. I know this simple fact is eluding some people, so here's the blindingly obvious math:

Old: $19.50/7.5 = $2.60 per gram
New: $19/50/4.5 = $4.33 per gram

2.60/4.33 x 100 = 60%

If 60% of 4.33 is 2.60 then 4.33 is 40% higher than 2.60, the price per unit (grams) of the MAC pigment in the new packaging is increased by 40%.

And the lovely news for the British folk, who were paying more to begin with:

Old: £15/7.5 = £2 per gram = $3.20 USD per gram
New: £15/4.5 = £3.33 per gram = $5.33 USD per gram
(Conversion courtesy of XE.com, correct at time of posting.)

The percentages are obviously the same, because the size reduction is the same. I know the Canadians will be feeling it, too, since they pay $23.50 CAD, which is $22.72 USD, just a little under what we pay.

I'm aware that MAC sometimes overfill their jars, however, the jars are sold by weight and they are only required to be filled up to 4.5g, now, whether they might happen to overfill your jar or not. I'm not going to excuse it on the grounds that you might get more if you're lucky. Honestly, I think the original person who pointed that out was reaching for ways to make this good news, because they recieve a lot of MAC sponsorship.

But She's Got A New Hat!

I don't think anything quite pisses me off like a company trying to sneak a blatant dick-move under the radar. It's like Stargate swapping out the actor for Dr. Weir without telling anyone. In a few episodes of Stargate SG1 they established Dr. Elizabeth Weir as Jessica Steen. Then, when Stargate Atlantis began, suddenly Weir was brunette and an entirely different actress, Tori Higginson. The two do not look much alike.

It would've been nice if one of the characters remarked on her dying her hair, or something, but instead they retconned it entirely.

All right, so it's not that similar, but MAC's being all "Hey look, shiny new bottle! Omg! It's tall and slim, like you want to be! Shiny shiny!" "Oh, by the way, we made it 40% more expensive. Hope that's okay."

I've read blog posts of people commenting on how they like the new packaging, it fits more easily in whatever, it looks nicer, it's better for the environment, and they never use a full jar, anyway, there's the economy/recession to think about. My response? *Coughs*

Sod that, it's a
FUCKING
40%
PRICE
INCREASE.


I actually went into the HTML code to make that bigger. Blogger doesn't have a default font size big enough to voice my outrage. Hear that, MAC? That's how big of a dick you're being. None of those reasons excuse a FORTY PER CENT increase. Have I used enough caps to fully illustrate how big that number is?

To me, this is like in the past paying $5k for a quad-core PC with 8 graphics cards and then only playing Minesweeper and checking my e-mail on it. Yes, there's a colossal amount of processing power I paid for which I'm not using - but I have it, because I paid for it, whether I use it or not. If, in the future, a game is released which requires such a powerful machine, I'll be able to rise to the challenge.
And then, having to pay $5k for a dual-core PC with 4 graphics cards, instead. Same money, less product. It might still be more than adequate for my needs, I might never use the full amount that it's capable of, but then in the future if I need to, I now can't, because I don't have it anymore. They decided they'd rather I pay them more, instead, and that I didn't need that much, anyway.

MAC are making 40% more, and I'm not getting anything out of it. So... what's in it for me, the customer? What if I used to give half my pigments to my sister? What if you sold pigment samples? What if you don't fancy being ripped off for an extra 40%? It's not "still an amazing deal", and it's downright shitty that they're not upfront about it.

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This is just another in a long line of abysmal MAC escapades. I went on a bit of a twitter rampage recently about MAC's incredibly crap newsletters, which aren't news at all, and only ever seem to be used to tell me about permanent products which are always available. If limited edition collections are included in a newsletter at all, it can be over a week after the collection has been available to buy online (I just recieved a newsletter about the MAC Warm & Cosy collection, a few minutes ago). I e-mailed them to ask why they don't bother to let us know when collections are coming out, for that matter, why the UK website doesn't have any kind of schedule for upcoming collections like the US one does, or why they don't tell us when limited edition items will go offline, so we might buy them before they disappear.

This was the reply:

Dear Anastasia

Thank you for taking the time to contact Mac online.

I am extremely sorry about this I have looked into this and can see that you are registered to receive mail? I have just refreshed your details so hopefully you should start to receive mail, if you do not receive anything within the next month please can you let me know?

Kind Regards
Vicki

Completely misunderstood. I explained that the issue wasn't that I was getting the e-mails, it was that the e-mails weren't giving me useful information. I also mentioned that they arrive days-to-weeks after collections are released, by which point they're all sold out, and it is no longer news. My example was Baroque Boudoir, which was never announced in the UK and sold out quickly.

Dear Anastasia

We didn’t send a Baroque Boudoir email as it sold out so quickly, you are on the database so I don’t see why you wouldn’t get any emails.

Please can you list the emails you have received over the past 2 months and then I can investigate exactly which emails you have not received?

Kind Regards
Vicki

Why wasn't the e-mail sent before or at the same time as the fucking collection release? What's the point of sending them afterwards? Are only clairvoyant people or obsessive refreshers allowed to buy MAC? I gave up, at that point, thinking they'd probably never understand what my complaint was, let alone do anything about it.

Apparently, MAC don't want us to know when their products are available, so that we can't buy them. And to cover their losses, they're hiking prices up by 40%, instead.

They're The Best! Oh, Wait, They're Not.

We seem to have this idea ingrained in our heads that MAC is one of, if not the best out there. Why is that, again? Their product quality has been steadily declining (like how sheer Haunting and Violet Trance were), they've released countless stupid, trivial collections featuring virtually all permanent items or re-promotes, and the handful of exciting MAC collections were sold out online within minutes while your newsletter wasn't even written.

I don't have a single MAC item which can't be beaten both in quality and price by something from Fyrinnae, Aromaleigh, Sassy or Purely Cosmetics, GOSH, Sleek, Estée Lauder or Bobbi Brown. So... why are we buying MAC, again?

These aren't dupes, but I did swatch some of my MAC pigments against similar shades of indie make-up, from Fyrinnae, Aromaleigh, Beauty from the Earth and TKB Trading.



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Like I said, not dupes, but I wanted to show that there are plenty of gorgeous colours out there which aren't MAC, of just-as-if-not-greater quality (True Chartreuse, for instance, goes on crap wet or over Pixie Epoxy), MAC pigments really aren't the be-all-and-end-all.

Instead of the automatic assumption that a MAC product is going to be great, next time we see a colour we like - why don't we look to see if someone else has done that colour, elsewhere?
After the latest stunt, I'm not going to bother with MAC again. I'm not going to be all /omgboycott, but I'm tired of their lacklustre crap and all the undeserved hype.

MAC isn't the best. Go explore the make-up world, it's a lovely place. I'm giving my businesses to companies that don't dress a 40% price increase up like it's good news because it comes in a slimmer jar.

65 comments:

SilhouetteScreams said...

The pigment jar change means I will definitely never buy a fullsize MAC pigment in Australia - we already pay $39AUD (about $35USD) for a fullsize pigment, fuck paying $39AUD for even LESS.

8 January 2010 12:32


Anastasia said...

Fucking hell. Poor Aussies, you always get it worse :[ And as Dylan Moran says, the sea is "inhabited exclusively by things designed to kill you".

Least y'got kangaroos.

8 January 2010 12:38


SilhouetteScreams said...

I'll unleash some kangaroos on the MAC execs >=| those bitches can kill.

Seriously, brands treat us like we're a third world country. I know we're kind of far away, but we either dont get any brands, or the select few we do get are insanely overpriced.

Thank god for ebay and online boutiques, any Australian who pays the insane prices (like $89 for a NARS multiple) is an idiot.

8 January 2010 12:52


webcake said...

I stopped buying MAC a while ago, when I discovered that my pigment sample collections from all over the world (even some brands with names I've never heard of and never had again) had colors and quality that MAC couldn't really touch.

I've been saying that forever, "why the hell are people still obsessed with MAC"?

The only answer I can come up with, is that it's a name that's easy to remember and associate with being pretty and having money in your pocket to spend on frivolous overdone makeup products.

Girls that base their whole look on the brands of makeup they use, and not how it actually LOOKS, are part of the cosmetic world simply to get more hype for themselves. I don't even think they really like makeup. That...

That makes me cry.

8 January 2010 13:37


Cacau said...

I've never bought a thing from MAC 'cause it's too expansive to buy here at Brazil...
I mean, some stores sell this pigments for something around 50$ here...
Some places for 30$...

I'm new to make-up but I guess I'll be sticking to smaller companies. It's not worthy buying from big ones here, I think.

MAC lippies are sold here for 30$...

I think make-up here is usually expansive....
Even national companies sell for really high prices...

By the way, do you know any Brazilian make-up company?
Like Contem 1g, Natura, Boticário...?
If you ever get interested in one of them, I'll gladly send you products...

8 January 2010 13:58


Amanda said...

Australia certainly gets the raw end of the deal with anything really. We pay less for imported food and more for local produce. Go figure. We do have a few Aussie brands that are ok. yes as SilhouetteScreams said, we do pay a fortune for mac products and frankly, I have found companies while searching for pigment samples that are cheaper and come in a tonne of colours.

PureLuxe cosmetics are one. Check it out, I have bought about 30 odd 5g pigment samples for just over $40 Aud. They work out to be around $1.20 each, I personally find them on par (if not, better) than mac.

8 January 2010 14:25


AxSDenied said...

Thats a bunch of crap MAC!! I know I'll never go through an entire pigment jar which is why I only own 2 because the price was effing stupid. Now it's 40% MORE STUPID. There's no way in hell I will pay that much for that much of a product decrease. Everyone salivating over the new bottle is just encouraging MAC to continue ripping people off.

8 January 2010 14:48


Pixie said...

I do like the look of the new design, but there was nothing stopping them from designing a container with that shape that could hold the same amount of product. I supposed it's basic supply and demand and they believe the demand will still be there. It probably will. There are a lot of MAC fanatics.

8 January 2010 15:08


Nea/ Fashioned in Finland said...

Wow, isn't it great to pay same amount and get 40% less.. :-O Smaller jar is great but the price should definitely be much lower too!

8 January 2010 15:16


Jessica said...
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Jessica said...

Ana- 

At least you get responses from MAC. I've written them
twice about the glaringly bad service I've gotten at my local shop, and haven't even seen a form letter apology! 

MAC doesn't care about customers because they know damn well that their brand image is strong enough to carry them through. I know a lot of people blame this on the corporate influence of MAC's parent company, Estee Lauder, but I have a tough time buying that. I was a manager and later a regional makeup artist for Estee Lauder for several years, and I can tell you, our brand ethos was MUCH more client-centric than MAC's has ever been.

I've said it for years- MAC is overrated! Yes, the products are good, but not better than most other prestige makeup lines. If they didn't offer a nice pro discount, I can tell you factually, I'd rarely shop there. Really. I owned 2 MAC products prior to getting my Pro card, and I never felt like I was missing out. 

For now, MAC will definitely be my last resort when it comes to pigments. There are so many other retailers out there offering high quality products (many for much more competitive prices.) Why waste loyalty on a company who doesn't appreciate it?

8 January 2010 15:33


Phyrra said...

You gotta try Silk Naturals. Karen from SN makes some MAC clones, and I think they're every bit as good as the MAC colors, if not better.

8 January 2010 15:45


Grey said...

I sold all my MAC shadows and I'm in the process of selling my pigments.

Apart from a few things that I just prefer from them, such as lipsticks, I don't normally go crazy over any new collections anymore. I've found much better product elsewhere.

I luv it when you get all ranty.

8 January 2010 15:57


Corvida said...

*squeal* Dylan Moran! I don't have a crush on him (he reminds me too much of an old boss for that), but I would encase him in carbonite and proudly display him in my living room. Next to my carbonite Jeff Goldblum, naturally.

8 January 2010 16:04


Sakara said...

Ive never been all over MAC..ive got products from them (luckily via friends who worked for them). that ive used once and never used again, or given away to other people - eyeshadows that have no payoff, mascaras that are so not waterproof and itch, powders and foundations that NEVER match my skin and give me breakouts of spots.
Nope...its all about the hype with them - theyre the 'trendy pro company' image..so people think theyre getting something special.

im disgusted about that new bottle and no change in price...Again luckily ive never bought a full sized container as my friend who worked there used to fill theyre sample pots with what ever shade i wanted to try..saved me a fortune.especially on certain pigments that were just horrible.

8 January 2010 16:30


Kate said...

I have a few MAC things, mostly that I brought from TSUK on LJ, so I made tons less than the shops sell it for. I do think the colours are nice, but price wie not exactly worth it.

I do love their Teal pigment though, does anyone know of any dupes? Ideally from places that ship to the UK.

8 January 2010 17:12


CthuLynny said...

I only own one mac product and to be frank, I dont even use it. I can recognize their colors by name half the time, but I have never been able to justify spending 20 bucks on a jar of pigment I could easily get elsewhere for a fraction of the price. The only high end brand I ever splurge on is UD, and honestly now I am not even spending money on them. There is one eye shadow of theres I would buy when I run out and thats it...the rest are easily duped.

8 January 2010 17:13


RaeRae said...

You said it all really. It's just a joke. Of course they'll get away with it though cause people like to believe in the 'quality' of expensive brands...

8 January 2010 17:42


chloevien said...

Oh well, hier in Germany we pay 23 Euro for a jar of MAC pigment = almost $33, I don't have any of them in full jar, only as a sample. Fyrinnae has more beautiful colors and cheaper even in full size *lol*

8 January 2010 18:29


Musing on Beauty said...

I think Mac is a great way to get into makeup. I mean they have a lot of products and shades, they have fabulous brushes - all those things I was clueless about until I discovered Mac.
But then for anybody really interested in makeup, it quickly appears that there are a lot of other brands, some more underground, that have a lot to offer.

I like mac pigments, I agree on the fact I'll never finish up a jar, but paying the same price for a much smaller amount isn't normal. And I know where else I can find pigments, now.

8 January 2010 20:01


Selina said...

I'm constantly amazed that companies try this "ooh look at our shiny new packaging isn't it pretty" smokescreen crap - do all marketing people think consumers are thick?

Oh and SilhouetteScreams, you should try finding some of those cosmetic ranges in New Zealand, let alone finding them at a price that doesn't require re-mortgaging the house! Last time I was in Australia I was blown away by the brands available, which shows you how crap the range is here!

8 January 2010 20:13


Kaoru said...

MAC is a good way to find out about colors in person, without having to make purchases, because it is available in so many places. Going to a counter is fun, and educational. Beyond that, they are not the best place to find good quality makeup for cheap, but they are cheaper than a lot of companies. I know I'm not the only one who doesn't like how often they come out with new, LE, crappy collections, instead of bringing out nice, pigmented, permanent options, but *shrug*, there are other fish in the sea.

temptalia did an interesting look at the pigments, and showed the amount that they overfill, and that they are still overfilling with their new jars. The amount is smaller than it used to be, but it isn't as harsh as a lot of people are assuming, because of this overfilling business. Still, I didn't buy pigments from them before because of the price, and I'm still not going to now.

(Oh, and part of the reason that they did the smaller amount, same price thing, was them raising the price on something that was so expensive was going to turn people off of pigments anyway, at least if it's the same price, more people will buy it. They should have lowered the price, but they did choose the lesser of 2 evils. More people are willing to pay $20 (or what have you) for a pigment than $30, or whatever it would have ended up being.)

8 January 2010 20:18


Apriltini said...

"I'm constantly amazed that companies try this "ooh look at our shiny new packaging isn't it pretty" smokescreen crap - do all marketing people think consumers are thick?"

Yeah, I think they do. It's sad, but I've seen a lot of people who really ARE that gullible and will believe anything a reputable company tells them.

I bought several shadesticks from a CCO on recommendation, then discovered they were complete crap. Creased like a mofo, and were difficult to apply. I was able to get rid of them, and now only have two lipsticks, also bought at a CCO, and have NO plans to ever buy another product from them again.

8 January 2010 22:13


JessikaLovecraft said...
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macismycrack said...

Pretty sure if I didnt get 40% off for being a makeup artist... I wouldnt be buying their makeup hardly ever! I dont buy from them often anymore... not since I moved out of my parents house and pay my own bills! since then I have been all about smaller companies! I get some things from them now and then... but I own pretty much every pigment they have ever made... if not all counting all the samples I have... I really have no need to buy their pigments any more... perfect time for them to be assholes! LOL that and I have pretty much every color I want from them... I think their limited collections have been going down hill for sooo long... the last ones I got were Fafi (which SUCKED) Heatherette (mediocre) NeoSciFi (boring) and the LAST was Hello Kitty. dont know why I even bothered! Im pretty sure my MAC collection is as maxed out as its going to get... Im only getting things when I NEED them... but I have been on this kick for months now... I keep my pro card up because I have a friend that lives by our nearest store... then SHE can go get makeup at a normal price with my 40% off. but I was glad to be informed further on this! thank you!!

8 January 2010 22:37


Shattered said...

To Amanda:

It was confirmed recently that PureLuxe is probably a huge repacker (see Gothique for the review), so if you think they're a good deal, I suggest checking out TKB and getting an evern better deal for a much larger quantity.

As for the MAC issue, when MAC was put in the poll I had a feeling that the pigment size change was a good part of the rant. I stopped buying MAC stuff for the most part awhile ago, aside from mascara, but I just found one that I like more than my Zoom Lash, so the love affair is over.

And I should dig up the email I got from MAC when I contacted them about the massive amount of counterfiet crap on eBay, and how it was damaging their brand name and such. It's pure rediculousness.

8 January 2010 22:41


Morgan said...

I've been kind of iffy on MAC lately. Especially going into their stores. They give me the impression of being so snobby. Bleh.

I was so eager to see their new collection, and I didn't even know their new Warm n' Cozy collection was out! Until I just read your entry. Maybe they do this on purpose to make women rush to their stores and buy them asap to sell out. I dunno, but it's lame.

Blah, blah, blah.

8 January 2010 22:43


beautifulwithbrains said...

I've been slowly turning my back on MAC over the past year and this is the last straw for me. I'm sick and tired of them releasing endless collections full of easily dupable colors that aren't even as intense and pigmented as they used to be. The quality and sizes of the products has been decreasing while the prices keep going up and now this!

I atually like the new design of the jar but they should either have made it taller so that it could have contained the same amount of product or decreased the price. I don't care if there still is enough product to last me a lifetime. The point is that making one paying the same for less is just wrong and a rip off!

I'm sure that there are lots of MAC fans that will buy them no matter what, but frankly their products are overpriced and nothing special. There are lots of other brands whose products are as good or even better than MAC out there and only cost a fraction of the price.

It's obvious that MAC people are just greedy and don't care about their customers, so I'm not gonna bother with them anymore. I may still buy their brushes (which I feel are the only thing worth buying from MAC at this point as the quality is amazing although there are lots of cheaper dupes for them around) and if they come out with a truly unique shade, I'd buy that too, but that's it. I just don't feel like I can support the brand anymore.

8 January 2010 22:47


vanityflair said...

Yeah, I never really got into buying MAC pigments. I always thought they were overpriced. Now that you've broken it down - and now that I've discovered companies like Aromaleigh for myself - I'm definitely not gonna bother.

Their Studio Fix foundation etc. line does work for me, though, so I'm gonna stick with that...at least until I have the motivation to go trying something else.

8 January 2010 22:51


Kim said...

I never really caught the MAC bug.. because yes, as you said, there are so many other companies out there offering products that are of even greater quality for a fraction of the cost. It's being well informed by blogs like yours that helps me make smart decisions I haven't regretted!

8 January 2010 23:13


Fuchsia said...

Hurrah!
Well, not hurrah for them being increasingly rubbish and annoying everyone, but for a good wholesome rant. And for going to the trouble of doing sums.
Does this mean they're now actually more expensive than Lime Crime? *shock* Oh, I think I'm getting an attack of the vapours.

9 January 2010 00:14


Anastasia said...

Ahaha, Silhouette, "kind of far away" made me lul, but then you are half a world away from us. I get kind've confused with US/Canadian/AUS prices. You all have dollars, sheesh, use the same one or name it something else @_@

9 January 2010 01:02


Anastasia said...

I'm glad I've finally joined the fold, Webcake :x

I think people just assume it's the industry standard, so then other people want to have it for the status symbol, "I know what I'm talking about, I use MAC" etc, blah blah blah. Perhaps they deserved the hype, back in the day, but I see no evidence of that now.

9 January 2010 01:02


Anastasia said...

Christ, that's expensive Cacau. I think the only worthwhile thing about MAC now is probably their brushes, and even then, I prefer my GOSH eye brushes.

I've never heard of annnyyyy of those Brazilian companies, haha! Are they good? :O

9 January 2010 01:03


Anastasia said...

Amanda, I've checked out Pure Luxe, and they're repackagers - hence the upcoming rant. You can get exactly the same thing in a lot of cases (they seem to make SOME of their own products) from TKB Trading.

Another thing that puts me off them is that they sell things which aren't FDA approved for use near the eyes as eyeshadows, without any warning, which is illegal, and they ignore requests for ingredient lists, etc. I'd steer clear of them.

My personal recommendations for mineral companies that have gorgeous loose eyeshadows would be Aromaleigh, Fyrinnae and Sassy, mostly. I hear good things about Meow and Morgana minerals, too.

9 January 2010 01:06


Anastasia said...

AxS, XD 40% more stupid, yup. Hit the nail on the head :p I always love your turn of phrase.

9 January 2010 03:54


Anastasia said...

Exactly, Pixie, them changing the bottle shape doesn't mean they have to make it smaller.

They'll get away with it, but that doesn't mean we can't bitch about it.

9 January 2010 03:55


Anastasia said...

Dead on, Nea. Whether you use it all up or not, that's really not the point, you paid for it!

9 January 2010 03:56


AxSDenied said...

Why thank ya ma'am :)

9 January 2010 03:56


Anastasia said...

Well, I get stupid responses from MAC, Jessica.

I'm seeing that more and more, but I agree with you about Estée Lauder - one of my best friends works for Estée Lauder, and she was incredibly lovely and helpful, which is how we became friends to start with.

There are so many beautiful products by other companies, I hardly ever use my MAC pigments.

9 January 2010 03:58


Anastasia said...

I've seen some of them, Phyrra. Maybe I'll go pick up some MAC dupes, although I tend to just pick colours I like xP

9 January 2010 03:58


Anastasia said...

I don't blame you, Grey. I might end up doing the same. Well, except Going Bananas, until I find a dupe for that, it's staying with me.

I was a bit of a make-up snob, I admit, but now I'm firmly into the indie companies =D

9 January 2010 03:59


Heather said...

I don't have anything MAC, and I don't get it. I see swatches which are nowhere near as gorgeous as from any of the indie companies I buy from. I feel like they have average products, with a huge markup. I will never pay $22 for an eyeshadow or lipstick... looking at their website, I honestly find very little that appeals to me. I have Hi Fi, Aromaleigh, Fyrinnae, Evil Shades... why would I pay for MAC? :P

9 January 2010 06:32


Tea said...

Ah, finally. Someone else who has seen the light. Maybe it makes me naïve, but companies that treat other people badly are companies I try to steer clear from. My not purchasing from goods from them may not hurt their bottom line in the long run - especially if they're a well known brand like MAC - but at the end of the day, I at least feel good about what I'm putting on my face. And it forces me to take the time and research the little guys that are doing it right (Or be lazy and just wait until you or Grey do the research, har!).

A couple years ago, a friend of mine who was going to beauty school told me she was boycotting MAC. When I asked why, she told me to google "MAC boycott" and I spent an evening reading about how MAC cheats other MUAs out of work by offering companies their own MUAs and giving away free product in order to get MAC promoted (holy run on sentence!). Repackaging is one thing, but deliberately going after someone else's money is too much for me. I slowly started buying MAC again here and there when I saw that freelance MUAs were using their products again, but after reading your post, I think I'll hold off on them indefinitely.

9 January 2010 07:24


Corvida said...

@Kaoru If they overfilled the old jar, overfilling now gets canceled out; you're still getting shafted. Even if they didn't overfill in the old jar, I don't think it's physically possible to hold an extra three grams of overflow in the new jar.

MAC is the Tupperware of makeup. The end.

9 January 2010 07:28


Anastasia said...

I LOVE Moran, Cor. His dry, cynical sense of humour is wonderful XD If you encase him in carbonite he won't be able to speak and be hilarious :[

9 January 2010 07:45


Anastasia said...

Sakara, oh god I HATED their foundation. The eyeshadows really aren't good anymore, and they're not particularly great or groundbreaking colours.

You're lucky you didn't pay full price for stuff! I know I dropped a lot on MAC over the years.

I agree though, s'all about the hype.

9 January 2010 08:09


Anastasia said...

Kate, I picked Teal as one of the ones to swatch but I don't have anything that's a close dupe to it. I suppose if you can't find one, you only need one old-size jar of it to last you forever though!

9 January 2010 08:10


Kaoru said...

@Corvida: I agree, and that was one of my points. You are still getting more product than they are advertising, they just shouldn't be lowing the amount by that much, and then claiming it's a good thing, and charging the same amount. Honestly, what they should have done is quietly stop overfilling, and not tell anyone about it; the results would have been the same, but people would be happier.

That's one of the reasons why I just don't buy from them unless I have to. Sure, I have a couple products from them, but most of those were gifts, anyway. (Or pigment samples, that I got at a really good deal, back when the person I bought them from was selling).

9 January 2010 09:01


Kate said...

I haven't actually seen the teal pigment on the website in ages :/ They only seem to have a few really dull colours on their now.

Perhaps I should just get another sample size, because I have to say out of the all the options you swatched I do sort of love teal most.

9 January 2010 17:34


Kate said...

Actually they do have a lot more colours. I'm guessing they stopped stocking them on the website so they coul bring in the new rip-off sized ones and people would be more inclinded to buy them.

9 January 2010 19:27


Saila said...

I like MAC lip products, they're ok. But the piggies.. not so much. What I have is mostly very gritty stuff that feels like rubbing sand on your lids. The Hello Kitty pigment Milk looks nice in the jar but it's really hard to apply because of the texture. I have some nice stuff from MAC but it's still Fyrinnae, Aromaleigh, Meow, Sassy and other companies of greater quality that get my money in the end.

9 January 2010 20:41


Cacau said...

Actually, sometimes they are sometimes they are not...
I liked my mousse blush from contem 1g a lot, but their shadows can be disappointing.

I like some of their lipsticks a lot though...

9 January 2010 22:35


Ciani said...

I shocked my fiance by telling him I was done with MAC because of the pigment change. The bottle makes someone whose already clumsy scared to open it and I know I would knock that whole thing over.

Ontop of the fact they are charging the same....why couldn't they cut the bottle in half along with the price and sell smaller sizes since most people don't use up a full jar fast. Maybe have both options available for Pros and consumers. I do agree that smaller companies have beautiful products that compare and exceed (like Fyrinnae) MAC's pigments so I've been focusing my purchases on them (especially after your reviews Anastasia, can't wait to try the Pixie Epoxy!) I did order a few of the old style MAC pigments of the ones I do like though but the only place I'm buying them from again is a CCO if I see a shade I like. (Sometimes people make newbies to makeup think MAC is the end all be all) I was one of these confused people when I started lol.

9 January 2010 23:42


Jaimi said...

I haven't even bought much MAC after my first OMG-MUST-HAVE-MAC bit. I like the Slimshine lipsticks I have, but I think I have all the colors I want anyway, and I've never had any interest in their pigments...even less interest now that I've discovered the indie MMUs, and even less than that since the size switch.

10 January 2010 02:58


Anna said...

I've noticed that people will insist that MAC is the best because everyone else says they are and not for an actual reason. I guess it's like going to a 3 Michelin star restaurant and deep down you didn't really like it, but you say it was the best meal of your life just because someone else said it's a great place.

Of course, I've definitely fallen for some MAC products but at least I know it's not the be all and end all. Thanks for giving us the heads up on the MAC pigment SCAM/FAIL and will definitely be looking into ordering from Fyrinnae for the first time!

11 January 2010 04:46


Julissa said...

I like how they made the jar taller to make it LOOK not-so-suspicious. MAC is definitely overrated and I've had a problem with them for a long time. Communities on livejournal are so "OMG MACX2390823942".

I've had too many bad experiences with MAC and have read so many things about them. When I heard about the pigments getting smaller it was just more of a reason to dislike it.

The fact that they you have to PAY to be a MAC Pro is ridiculous. All of the real pro companies don't charge you extra for a pro memebership. They require proof that you are and that's it.

Anyway, my problems with MAC aside, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels they're not god's gift to makeup lovers.

11 January 2010 21:15


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Lauren said...

http://www.temptalia.com/old-vs-new-mac-pigment-packaging-kitschmas-vs-kitschmas-aka-part-2

I just wanted to share this article with you. I never liked MAC's pigments and I only ever buy samples if I really fall in love with one. Apparently, this article is saying MAC has a tendency to overfill their jars. Not that that justifies the price increase, but it helps the sting a little. I think she points out that on average it's an 18% loss, not 40%

12 January 2010 04:20


Anastasia said...

Lauren -

I've seen the post, in fact, if you check the comments I argued with Temptalia over it.

MAC pigments are sold by weight, not volume, so whether they *MIGHT* overfill or not, I go by what is guaranteed, which is the 4.5g. Considering it looks like random luck whether jars are overfilled or not, I'm not willing to base a price comparison on that.

12 January 2010 04:48


Lauren said...

Sorry, I didn't read the whole thing. There's like 90 comments. I'm not an advocate of MAC and am in no way arguing that her point is a saving grace, but it's something to consider. I find their products are very hit and miss for me. Their foundations are crap, blush is just okay, eyeliners are mediocre, and a lot of their eyeshadows just aren't for me. The only reason I don't buy from Aromaleigh or Fyrinnae is because I hate loose pigments. If they sold eyeshadows (and correct me if they do) I would definitely give them a try. I also am leery of ordering colors online chancing that I might hate them in person. I hate battling the fallout of pigments. Most of my eyeshadows are Coastal Scents or Urban Decay.

12 January 2010 06:06


Porcelaine said...

I've never bought MAC, ever! Now, I don't say that proudly because if i ever did i'd still be happy with it. But yeah, as said, myself and many other people get the raw end because, yes I live in down under, Australia. I love walking by the counter and having a look, and i think some of the colours are gorgeous but i'll just list the reasons why i don't like them
1. the price, as been said. when ever i go past I always end up thinking I can buy 6+ shadows in different or similar colours
2. they are not easy to find in physical stores
3. i'm sure most of the colours can be found in other companies, eg one of fyrinnae's blue and black shadow looks similar to macs
4. the quality is not to die for, and there are products out there that match the quality. if no one else was equal to their quality then that could justify the MUA aspect... but it doesn't
5. overrated and impossible to buy LE collections since everyone gets it online as a pre order.. like WTF, your pre order is sold out? and you don't plan to bring out more! thanks for not letting me see the physical product before i buy and giving me a chance to confirm the quality.. or just because i don't have a f-ing credit card .. or that it went in a flash...
6. and yeah, i noticed the newsletters never have new material. the only reason i sign up is to see the pretty pictures, then get out.

i think with everyone, most of the time the buying of products comes down to the price first, which is why this is so outragous. otherwise i wouldn't care so much. everything else is just the sugar and cherry on top of the ridiculousness.

can i reblog this anastasia?

i'll be rounding up the kangaroo soldiers with echidna armour and aim the koalas and wombat shit in their holy direction ;)

13 January 2010 08:56


Miss J said...

I realize that I'm way, WAY late on this, but the math was kind of bothering me--as an engineer, being obsessive with calculations is my thing ;)

So, for the price increase %, you'd first calculate
(new/old)*100 = total percent of the original price

(4.33/2.6)*100 = 166.5 %

percentage increase = 166.5 - 100

So the actual percent *increase* is about 66.5%. MAC sucks.

17 February 2010 03:21


Beth... said...

This blog never ceases to be full of win.

10 August 2010 18:16


Vicky said...

Where is the schedule on the MAC US site for collections? I always end up on Temptalia.

18 December 2010 00:49



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